Discuss: “Hispanic Community Rejects Cuccinelli GOP Brand, Embraces Christie GOP Brand”

  1. November 9, 2013 at 3:47 pm #

    The only positive thing you can do at this point is not support any Republican who stays with the CS, FAIR etc rhetoric. The more you all excuse it the longer it will take to erase the negative from all Latino’s minds. And there is verbiage out there that is terrible. Comparing them to Rats is mild compared to some of the language I have heard in commentary after pro immigration articles, in speeches and on the radio. The Republican candidates need to educate themselves on immigration and a few other subjects so they can live to fight the battle for a market economy. It is almost too late.

    Posted by Lynn A. Bloxham
    • November 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm #

      Your point is well taken. However, what I have typically found is most Republicans don’t understand immigration issues well, and well funded groups like FAIR, NumbersUSA, CAPS, and CIS fill that vacuum with disinformation. When Republican politicians parrot their talking points, Latinos get turned off and develop a negative perception of the GOP. CCLR will continue to keep exposing these faux conservatives, and rebut the disinformation they propagate to inflame public opinion against reform.

      Posted by bquasius
  2. November 9, 2013 at 8:45 pm #

    Too many pundits used the lazy approach for speculating Christie’s potential for getting 2016 Hispanic votes as it applies to the 2013 NJ Exit Poll.
    The data was there for the taking. They ASKED the question of the choice between Christie and Hillary Clinton for 2016. It was widely reported that Clinton was perferred 48% to 44% for Christie.
    Did you want to write something informative about Christie’s potential for Hispanic votes for 2016?

    Did you ask for racial crosstab for the Christie/Clinton question?

    Well here is the actual results:
    http://fb-nhthinker.newsvine.com/_news/2013/11/08/21372053-nhthinker-alert-demographic-presidential-projections-based-on-nj-exit-poll-data

    Christie gets 33% vs 57% for Hillary.

    It also seems there was a conspiracy of laziness to create a spin on Christie’s difference at getting Hispanic votes as compared to Tea-Party Republicans.

    Christie 33% compared to 29% for Cuccinelli – FOUR whole points!!

    Republicans need to make sure they start looking for and using the best data available.

    It seems I wasted my donation to Republicans in 2012 because Romney’s team had Pollyanna polling that showed that they had a path to win. It was BS. The use of Christie versus Bouno as illustrative of Hispanic support is BS.

    The Republicans won’t get any more of my money until they prove their polling can be objective with modern methods.

    Posted by nhthinker
  3. November 10, 2013 at 5:24 am #

    So exit polls that say Cuccinelli gets 29% against McAullife. The NJ Exit poll says Christie gets 33% against Clinton in the 2016 matchup. Do you really think that 4 point difference is the gulf between a rejection versus an embrace from a demographic?
    http://fb-nhthinker.newsvine.com/_news/2013/11/08/21372053-nhthinker-alert-demographic-presidential-projections-based-on-nj-exit-poll-data

    Posted by nhthinker
  4. November 10, 2013 at 5:34 am #

    Cuccinelli got 29% of Hispanic vote. Christie got 33% of the Hispanic vote in the Clinton matchup from the NJ Exit Poll. Do you really think that 4 point difference is the gulf between voter rejection and embrace?
    Please use the most relevant data from a poll when trying to project 2016 potential.

    http://fb-nhthinker.newsvine.com/_news/2013/11/08/21372053-nhthinker-alert-demographic-presidential-projections-based-on-nj-exit-poll-data

    • November 10, 2013 at 5:53 am #

      Christie got 51% of the Hispanic vote this election, even with a Hispanic candidate on the ballot as the Democrat’s running mate for Lt. Governor. Four years ago Christie received just 32% of the Hispanic vote, 19% less.

      Hillary has a lot of baggage, not just Benghazi but going back to the Clinton years.

      Not much attention has been focused on the appalling practice of denying U.S. passports to thousands of Latino U.S. citizens birthed by midwives. Democrats like to lambast Republicans for supporting immigration enforcement laws that fuel racial profiling against Latinos, but Hillary’s own State Department racially profiles Latinos for U.S. passport.

      If you have a Hispanic surname and your official birth certificate shows you were birthed by midwife, first you can expect a request for a mountain of other documents, at least some of which you’ll likely be unable to produce, especially if you’re elderly. Then, you’ll likely be refused a U.S. passport anyway. If you were birthed by midwife but don’t have a Hispanic surname, just wait for your U.S. passport to arrive in the mail.

      Some Hispanic citizens have actually had their U.S. passports cancelled while they were abroad, then refused reentry into the U.S. One poor man went to his dying grandmother’s funeral in Mexico, then refused reentry to the U.S. He spent 18 months in exile in Mexico while he waited to win his federal lawsuit against the State Department!

      Posted by bquasius
  5. November 10, 2013 at 5:44 am #

    Cuccinelli got 29% of Hispanic vote in VA. Christie got 33% of Hispanic vote in the hypothetical matchup against Hillary Clinton.

    http://nhthinker.wordpress.com/
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/exit-polls-hillary-clinton-would-clobber-chris-christie-amon

    Do you really think 29% means rejection and 33% means an embrace?

    Republicans clearly misused polling data in 2012 and it helped them lose. We need to start using the best polling information and the best GOTV strategies if we are to win close elections.

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